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36 volt club car no go

Postby bmw325is89 » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:34 pm

Alright i have 2 club cars currently and both were running before i started this project. Now i have 1 that runs and one that doesn't.

The red cart i have was considerably slower than the white one and seemed like it wasn't hitting the higher speed solenoids. So i decided to take one of my solenoids from my white club car and swap it with the 4th solenoid on the red CC. After doing this when i press the gas on the red one all i get is solenoid clicks. So i decided to put the old solenoid back in. Same issue all i get is solenoid clicks. Just to make sure i put the solenoid from the white cc back in and the cart goes fine. Not sure whats going on here


Cliff

When i press gas pedal on red CC all i get is solenoid clicks. It worked ok before i swapped solenoids from my white cc. Now when i try the swapped or the original the cart does not go anywhere.

Any ideas would be apprectiated.

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Postby Big Bump » Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:06 pm

Several things to check.
Make sure all 4 wires to the motor are tight (no wires pulled loose)
Check your batteries to make sure you don't have a dead one.
If the main positive battery is dead, the cart is dead. Same goes
with the main negative battery.
Jump across the large terminals on the first solenoil and see if it will
run. You will need to jack the rear wheels up to do this. You will need
to jump the first solenoid and press the accelerator. Just because
a solenoid clicks don't mean it's good. Will check back on you later.
You can fool some of the people all the time, and those
are the ones you want to concentrate on.
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Postby bmw325is89 » Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:55 pm

alright thanks for the info. Upon troubleshooting i accidentally touched the negative battery lead to the second solenoid from the front and it jumped forward. I tried replacing the solenoid ahead of it with a good one and still no go. I have tested all 5 now and am still getting the same issue.

But it does go if i touch that second solenoid directly with the negative lead.


Thanks for the help,

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Postby bmw325is89 » Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:21 pm

Also-- i only get 3 clicks when i press the pedal. Was doing some research-- would a bad microswitch cause this issue.
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Postby Big Bump » Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:19 am

Certainly would. There's 5 micros in that little aluminium box
with the red end caps. Each one fires a solenoid. You should
hear 5 micro clicks.
You can fool some of the people all the time, and those
are the ones you want to concentrate on.
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Postby bmw325is89 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:24 pm

Ok i know i only had 3 click before this so that was likely why it was slow. Could another one have gone bad and cause it to click 3 times and not go at all?

Thanks for the prompt replies either way bump.

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Postby bmw325is89 » Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:29 pm

bump
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Postby Big Bump » Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:58 am

bmw, That micro switch box has a nylon slider that connects with
a rod to the accelerator. I have found, in some cases, the slider
had worn down to the point that it did not 'sit high enough' to turn
on the micro. Also, some had a bent accelerator rod that would
not let the slider go all the way back to turn on micros. Check your
rod and see if it's bent. You can disconnect the rod from the box
and slide it by hand and see if you get 5 clicks. If so, just unscrew
the ends of the rod til' you get it long enough. That cover on the
end of the rod will slide back to let you slip the rod off the little ball.
You can check the slider by holding up on it while you press the
accelerator. If you now get 5 clicks, you need a new slider.
You can fool some of the people all the time, and those
are the ones you want to concentrate on.
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Postby bmw325is89 » Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:02 pm

Alright i will definitley check that out. Again thanks for the reply big bump.

Will update if i get it moving
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Postby bmw325is89 » Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:03 pm

Alright i had all the solenoids checked. One was bad but not the master. So i put all the solenoids back it sitll won't go. I can hear the first 3 solenoids click (last 2 micros i belive are bad). I tested the master with a volt meter and when i press the gas pedal i get 36 volts between the two large posts. When i click the second solenoid and test i get nothing. If i jump the second solenoid the cart moves forward. So it seems like an issue with the master not transferring the power to the next solenoid.


What can i check to get this problem fixed ?

Thanks

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Postby Big Bump » Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:46 am

I think I would replace that #1 solenoid.. Just because it clicks don't
mean it's good. If that's not the problem, you will have a spare,
because sooner or later you will need it.
You can fool some of the people all the time, and those
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Postby bmw325is89 » Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:59 pm

Right i have already replaced the number one solenoid and still nothing. Replacing microswitches today....
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Postby bmw325is89 » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:24 pm

Ha ha alright guys have an update on the progress of the non moving red club car. I just installed 4 new solenoids (what a pain in the rearend that was) and was excited and ready to test it out. So i put the key in, put it in forward, and press the pedal. Then i watch smoke pour out from the cart as both the ignition and solenoid wires melt away. I am thinking when i installed the new solenoids i connected something wrong-- so i will be taking pictures tommorrow. If anyone has a detailed wiring diagram for the 80's club cars -- i would appreciate it.
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Postby sawdoc » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:57 pm

Monkey-1 posted a diagram in resources. Check drop box at bottom find Resources then wiring diagram Electric carts I think this will help
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Postby bmw325is89 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:31 am

Yeah that diagram did not cover it well enough. Just can't get this thing going ha.
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